Thursday, June 23, 2005

Pelosi Joins Durbin in the "Stupid-Is-As-Stupid-Does" Club

More nonsense from Democrat leaders in Congress.

"I assume that the war in Afghanistan is over, or is the contention that you have that it continues?" Representative Nancy Pelosi said. Later, the Minority Leader added: "This isn't about the duration of the war. The war in Afghanistan is over."

"Would you prefer that they gave up the fight, stopped hunting for Osama bin Laden and allowed the terrorists to run free?" seven Republicans, all members of the House Armed Services Committee, wrote in a letter to the California Democrat.

One of two things seems correct:

1) These liberals just don’t get it. They don’t understand what is going on around them. They have instead of realistic expectations, a fantasy view of how wars are waged and won.

2) They do understand what is going on, but are so desperate to make political hay that they will say anything – however inappropriate, however untrue, or however harmful to the nation, the troops and the war effort – to try to score points.

I hope it’s the former. I fear it’s the latter.

Either way, the Democrats are (still) out of touch with most Americans.

According to The Washington Times, a “Rasmussen Reports survey conducted this week found that 36 percent of Americans say the detainees are being treated better than they deserve, and another 34 percent say they are being treated about right. Just one in five say the detainees are being treated unfairly, with 10 percent saying they do not know.”

The Rasmussen poll asked: "Most of the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay are members of al Qaeda, the Taliban and other terrorist groups. Generally speaking, is the United States treating these prisoners unfairly, treating them better than they deserve, or treating them about right?"

The Times reported that the telephone poll of 1,000 Americans, conducted early this week, also found that only 14 percent agree with Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, who charged that prisoner treatment at Guantanamo is similar to the tactics used by the Nazi or Soviet regimes.

So, according to Rasmussen, 70 percent of those surveyed believe detainees are being treated appropriately or better, while only 20 percent think detainees are being treated “unfairly.” Not surprisingly only 14 percent agree with Sen. Richard Durbin’s absurd characterization of the treatment at the Guantanamo Bay facility.

From the conservative perspective it is a boon for the liberals/Democrats to behave in this petulant and juvenile fashion, because it just illustrates how out of touch they are with mainstream America.

From the American perspective, however, it would be far better for the country if they would just shut up and stop doing so much damage to their country’s image and demoralizing our fighting men and women who are risking their lives daily to protect their right to say and do stupid things.


Kenna Amos said...

At "Mullah Coddlers" at Best of the Web Today, today, from the Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal:

"Of course it is legitimate to criticize government policies, even in times of war.

"But the Democratic attacks on Guantanamo are so hysterical and unmoored from reality that they have the feel of gotcha politics. The over-the-top rhetoric and accusations are reminiscent of Democratic attacks on Republican judicial nominees. As Ryan Sager writes (in "The Hyperbolic Question," at

'There's an important debate to be had in this country about just how far we're willing to go in our interrogations.

'But it's a difficult debate to even get started when one side thinks that we should be extremely concerned with the possibility that someone, somewhere might have desecrated the Korans of the people responsible for the murders of Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, Fabrizio Quattrocchi, three-thousand Americans and now hundreds upon hundreds of Iraqi civilians.'

"A Rasmussen poll out yesterday suggests that this is terrible politics. Only 20% of the 1,000 likely voters in the survey 'believe prisoners at Guantanamo Bay have been treated unfairly.' Thirty-four percent think the treatment of the prisoners is 'about right,' and 36% think America is treating them 'better than they deserve.'

"The survey also found that just 14% agree with people who say that prisoner treatment at Guantanamo Bay is similar to Nazi tactics. Sixty-nine percent disagree with that comparison.

"This helps explain why Illinois Senator Dick Durbin apologized for making such a comparison.

"Even among Democrats, only 30% think the Guantanamo prisoners are being treated unfairly. In other words, many Democratic elected officials are out of touch not only with Americans in general but with a majority of their own supporters.

"What are we to make of all this?

"The most hopeful interpretation is that the Democrats are politically incompetent--that they are stupidly trying to whip up hysteria over Guantanamo in hope of scoring political points.

"The other possibility is that one of America's two major political parties is led by people who are genuinely passionate about the 'rights' of terrorists and correspondingly blasé about the dangers of terrorism.

"In light of all this, Durbin's politically expedient 'apology'--even if unsatisfactory as an apology--is a good sign. It suggests that Democrats are playing politics and coming to realize it isn't working."

I wrote this noteJames Taranto, the editor of the page, who wrote that:

"I do appreciate the optimism of your first interpretation and the insight of the second, though I wonder if, in the latter, it’s not more appropriately 'genuinely and gleefully passionate.'

"But, respectfully, I suggest it’s not a good sign about Crocodile Dan D’s teary-eyed, choked-up, half-you-know-what “apology.” At best, it was cheap street theatre; at worst, typical cover-your-posterior groveling, which is what you suggested.

"His actions, last week and this, lead to the re-asking of at least two questions.

"One, do the Democrats actually care about anything, other than being destructive and divisive? Regardless of what drove Durbin’s 'apology,' I suggest choosing between what you posit as either hopeful interpretation or the other possibility will not give an affirmative, satisfactory answer with regard to our country and its protection.

"Two, do they really believe that Americans are so dumb they won’t notice what just occurred here—or this seemingly, ever strengthening pattern they exhibit?

"Too, while the silence of the Dems of not criticizing Durbin certainly signals political motivation for his remarks, it seems to indicate some foundational issues they have with our country, as in: Are they about to fully unfurl their banner of socialism and declare they are against any and all things American?"

Nothing's changed in the past 10 hours or so that changes my comments.

I keep wondering: How much lower will the Democrats sink? They can't go any further in showing how truly anti-American and soul-less they are.

Buffalo said...

One thing that seems to be a certainity to me; there is no way possible to wipe out all the terrorists. It just isn't going to happen.